The Catturd Deficit

“What Most Americans Want” with Andrea Pitzer


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The woman who wrote the definitive global history of concentration camps explains how this could be our moment to escape authoritarianism

Andrea Pitzer’s book ONE LONG NIGHT became essential reading during Donald Trump’s presidency. This unforgettable global history of concentration camps provided clarity and context to the crimes the Trump administration was committing at the border in our names.

Now, Pitzer is back with a gripping new newsletter, Degenerate Art, and a warning about what could come next.

“In terms of what I've looked at in my own work from history, what I have found is that often, somewhere between three and five years after an authoritarian personality comes to power, there's kind of an inflection point or a moment when it could all almost be stopped,” she told us.

Pitzer explained what this inflection point means and why we can be optimistic that the American public might take advantage of this moment. She also provides crucial clarity about how Donald Trump became possible in the United States, how he would be worse the next time around, and what sort of atrocities we should expect if he and allies like Stephen Miller and Project 2025 seize power again.

And when one of the world’s leading authorities on concentration camps tells you that propaganda works, we better believe her.

Thanks for listening to these podcasts if you have. You can follow and support my work at IKnowHowMuchYouCare.com.

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