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What SEJ Is Hearing from Search Marketers Right Now


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If search used to be about ranking on Google, what is it really shaping today?


In this episode of Shift Happens, host Nasser Sahlool is joined by Matt Southern, Senior News Writer at Search Engine Journal, to explore how search is evolving beyond rankings, clicks, and traditional SEO metrics.


They unpack the shift from Google-only visibility to a broader decision ecosystem spanning AI search, zero-click results, Amazon, TikTok, Reddit, YouTube, maps, reviews, and marketplaces. Matt shares what search marketers are asking right now, what’s being overhyped, and what brands are underestimating as AI systems increasingly shape how people discover, compare, validate, and choose. The episode also explores why SEO fundamentals still matter, how consistent brand information influences AI-generated answers, and why marketers need to measure success beyond organic traffic alone.


The takeaway? Search doesn’t just drive clicks anymore—it shapes trust, influence, and decisions across the full customer journey.


Fix Your KPI Blind Spots Webinar: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/webinar-lp-fix-for-kpi-blind-spots-how-to-finally-tie-ai-search-to-performance/

The Top 6 Search Engines Market Share & The AI Search Engines To Watch Blog: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/seo/meet-search-engines/


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