In this episode John is joined by Dr. Vittorio Bufacchi from University College, Cork, Ireland, where they spoke on the key themes of Vittorio’s recent book: Everything Must Change: Philosophical Lessons from Lockdown. In this broadranging conversation they talk about life’s fragility, the art of living, death, the media and politics. What lessons have we learnt from COVID-19? Are we any wiser from the misfortune and injustices that have befallen our societies due to the global pandemic?

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