<p>How do you organize against a pandemic or a wildfire? Kelly talks with organizer Vanamali Hermans about mutual aid, catastrophe and how we survive. </p>

How do you organize against a pandemic or a wildfire? Kelly talks with organizer Vanamali Hermans about mutual aid, catastrophe and how we survive.

<p>How do you organize against a pandemic or a wildfire? Kelly talks with organizer Vanamali Hermans about mutual aid, catastrophe and how we survive.&nbsp;</p>

What to Do When the World's on Fire ft. Vanamali Hermans

An ongoing call to action for movement work and mutual aid efforts around the country. Kelly Hayes connects with activists, journalists and others on the front lines to break down what’s happening in various struggles and what listeners can do to help.

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