In this previously recorded interview episode, Jaimie and Sunny talk about the joys and pitfalls of being a high-achiever with special guest SuChin Pak, veteran journalist and co-creator of the podcast “Add to Cart.” In exploring the “hungry mindset” that could potentially lead to burn-out, they also reflect on the material and immaterial things they turn to that help nourish our spirit.

Check out the podcasts Add to Cart (@addtocartpod) and The Other Story with Jenn Gottesfeld wherever you listen to podcasts!