What if everything we thought we knew about screen time was the wrong conversation? In this episode, Danusia Malina-Derben joins Jordan Shapiro for a refreshingly grounded take on parenting in the digital age. Together, they unpack why most debates around tech and children are missing the point.

Jordan challenges the obsession with duration, how long a child is online, and instead urges parents to look at quality: What are kids doing? Who are they connecting with? What values are being shaped?

This is a wide-ranging and deeply human discussion about how parents can actually mentor their children through a digital landscape, rather than fear it. Expect thoughtful critique, sharp metaphors, and the kind of parenting insight that doesn't come wrapped in guilt.

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Credits:

• Hosted by Danusia Malina-Derben

• Edited, Mixed + Mastered by Marie Cruz

• Cover art by Anthony Oram