Our host and a panel of three veteran intentional interim ministers review "What We Learned from Susan Beaumont" at the May 10-11, 2022 TIIMSA Virtual Gathering from her Keynote presentations using her book, How to Lead When You Don't Know Where You're Going: Leading in a Liminal Season. Whether you attended this Gathering or not, you will find some valuable concepts to use as a transitional specialist leading congregations through a liminal season! Please note that this is the second of a two-part series. Our first podcast at the end of April was, "Looking at Liminal Time," when we introduced our panelists and defined "liminality." This second part was recorded on June 2 with the same panel host, Bill Kemp, and participants, Karen Dungan, Jane Sautter, and Keith Head.