The Path To Leadership

What We Wish We Knew And What We’re Glad We Learned


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If you’ve ever looked at your winding path and wondered whether it “counts,” this conversation is your green light. We trade birthday cake for straight talk about nonlinear careers, hard-won leadership lessons, and the boundaries that keep purpose intact when the world pushes for more, faster, always.

We start with early ambition—the kind that outruns experience—and the moment confidence meets humility. From switching majors and industries to rejecting career shame, we unpack why generalist skills and learning agility are powerful in an AI-driven workplace. Then we tackle leadership: the difference between managing people and actually leading. Not everyone should be a manager. Influence, impact, and relationship-building can move work further than titles ever will, and we share messy truths about getting that wrong and how we repaired trust.

Burnout and boundaries take center stage as we redefine success. Saying no became a survival skill. Leaving misaligned cultures wasn’t quitting; it was choosing health, values, and a life we recognize as ours. We talk about entrepreneurship’s paradox—more pressure, better sleep—and why ownership can turn stress into focus. Curiosity pulls us forward: ongoing classes, new frameworks, and a commitment to keep growing so the work stays meaningful and the mind stays sharp.

Next week, we’ll dig into personality and behavioral assessments—CliftonStrengths, Working Genius, and more—where they help, where they hinder, and how to use them wisely. If this resonated, share it with someone on the edge of a pivot, subscribe for more candid leadership fuel, and leave a review so others can find the show. What definition of success are you ready to rewrite?

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The Path To LeadershipBy Catalyst Development