Meta recently scaled backs its commitment to the Quest ecosystem after struggling to build a durable, self-sustaining community in virtual reality.

We spoke with Wagner James Au, author of Making a Metaverse That Matters, to unpack why Meta struggled to grow in VR after a strong start and what those missteps can teach other builders in the space.

We also contrast Meta's experience with Roblox's explosive growth, exploring why user-generated platforms continue to scale while much of the games industry stalls, even while serious concerns remain around safety and security for younger players.

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Credits:

• Hosts: Neil Barbour, Ian Hughes
• Guest: Wagner James Au
• Edited By: Neil Barbour
• Published With Assistance From: Sophie Carr, Feranmi Adeoshun, Patrick Moroney