Jess was a much bigger influence on my life than she realised. One of a group of art students that i met when i moved to London for my placement year in 1990.

Jess is an artists that works with geometry and nature. Sustainability runs through her like "Blackpool" through a stick of rock.

This is a rich conversation about the value of art in society, growing up in a slightly bohemian house in a normal street, and a tale of two fish pies.

Utterly wonderful.