This week we discuss a moment in cricketing history larger than the game itself - the infamous underarm ball bowled by Trevor Chappell at the behest of his brother and team captain Greg Chappell. Australia won the game - but at what cost?  And what were they thinking?  Our podcasters explore the ethics of winning in cricket and in other arenas. Is an attitude of "whatever it takes" ever justified? As always, the conversation takes a twist into religion, history and even a story about eating your own dog (?!).

Today's game - Australia vs NZ, February 1st 1981