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- Whatever, Nevermind Podcast: Nirvana - Bleach. Ranked #13 RS Greatest Grunge Albums
Coming in at No. 13 on Rolling Stone Magazine's list of the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums is the Nirvana Bleach. Josh Toomey joins Bakko to discuss.
#Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
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Pantheon Podcasts
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https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
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1 hr 12 min - David de Sola Interview - Alice In Chains - Facelift
Author David de Sola joins the show to discuss Alice Chains before and up to Facelift.
#Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
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58 min - Whatever, Nevermind Podcast: Alice In Chains - Facelift. Ranked #14 RS Greatest Grunge Albums
Coming in at No. 14 on Rolling Stone Magazine's list of the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums is the L7 album Bricks Are Heavy. Chris Czynszak joins Bakko to discuss.
#Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
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1 hr 36 min - Whatever, Nevermind Podcast: L7 - Bricks Are Heavy. Ranked #15 RS Greatest Grunge Albums
Coming in at No. 15 on Rolling Stone Magazine's list of the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums is the L7 album Bricks Are Heavy. Josh Toomey joins Bakko to discuss.
#Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
Reach out to us!
Rate, review, and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts
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1 hr 6 min - Whatever, Nevermind: Houdini Producer GGarth Richardson
Producer GGarth Rischardson joins the program to discuss the Melvins album Houdini.
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
Reach out to us!
Rate, review, and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts
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34 min - Whatever, Nevermind Podcast: Melvins - Houdini. Ranked #16 RS Greatest Grunge Albums
Coming in at No. 16 on Rolling Stone Magazine's list of the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums is the Melvins album Houdini. Randy Brown from the Synaptic Empire Podcast joins Bakko to discuss.
#Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
Reach out to us!
Rate, review, and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts
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1 hr 18 min - Whatever, Nevermind: Gary Lee Connor of Screaming Trees
Guitarist of the Screaming Trees Gary Lee Connor joins the show to discuss the making of the record Sweet Oblivion.
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
Reach out to us!
Rate, review, and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts
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1 hr 36 min - Whatever, Nevermind Podcast: Screaming Trees - Sweet Oblivion. Ranked #17 RS Greatest Grunge Albums
Coming in at No. 17 on Rolling Stone Magazine's list of the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums is the Screaming Trees album Sweet Oblivion. Joining Bakko for this ep is Shout It Out Loudcast co-host Tom Gigliotti. Tom & Bakko go track by track on this important soundtrack to the grunge scene. #Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
Reach out to us!
Rate, review, and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts
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1 hr 22 min - Whatever, Nevermind Podcast: Mad Season - Above. Ranked #18 RS Greatest Grunge Albums
Coming in at No. 18 on Rolling Stone Magazine's list of the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums is the Mad Season album Above. Joining Bakko for this ep is Decibel Geek co-host Aaron Camaro. Aaron & Bakko go track by track on this important soundtrack to the grunge scene. #Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
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1 hr 48 min - Whatever, Nevermind Podcast: Singles Motion Picture Soundtrack: Ranked #19 RS Greatest Grunge Albums
Coming in at No. 19 on Rolling Stone Magazine's list of the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums is the Motion Picture Sountrack for the movie Singles. Joining Bakko for this ep is Andy Schaal. Andy & Bakko go track by track on this important soundtrack to the grunge scene. #Grunge
About Whatever, Nevermind
Whatever, Nevermind is a 25 part podcast by Bakko of Cobras & Fire counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge albums according to Rolling Stone. Each Episode features a special guest host from the Podcast Community. In addition to the 25 album episodes will be bonus interviews from the people responsible for the music. Featuring artists, producers record label execs and more.
Whatever, Nevermind Archive:
https://cobrasandfire.com/category/podcast/whatever-nevermind
Pantheon Podcasts
https://open.spotify.com/show/1MQIGBGYdRgjE7ThmfwdW9
https://iheart.com/podcast/255319888/
https://www.pandora.com/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/PC:1001096816
https://deezer.com/show/1001525961
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whatever-nevermind-a-grunge-podcast/id1789046419
https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/53272646-10d8-47b7-bcac-10a6105ba7b4
Reach out to us!
Rate, review, and subscribe at Apple Podcasts: Cobras & Fire: Comedy / Rock Talk Show on Apple Podcasts
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1 hr 49 min
About Whatever, Nevermind: A Grunge Podcast
From the publisher's feed
"Whatever, Nevermind: A Grunge Podcast" is a podcast series counting down the 25 Greatest Grunge Albums according to Rolling Stone. Each episode features a special guest host from the music podcasting community.
Beyond the album countdown, bonus episodes spotlight exclusive interviews with the people responsible for the music—artists, producers, record executives, authors, and more.
Whatever, Nevermind is hosted by Bakko of the Cobras & Fire Podcast and originally recorded and released in 2020-2021. This podcast will continue to drop new episodes periodically, continuing the celebration of this scene. Whether you're a lifelong fan or grunge or jumping in for the first time...ugh. Whatever, Nevermind.
Part of Pantheon Podcasts.