Asli Aydintasbas of the European Council on Foreign Relations talks about Turkey’s troubling third wave of covid-19, democratic backsliding and the anti-Western shift among Turkish nationalists (4:50), Turkey’s elite as out of touch and President Erdogan needing to pivot  (9:10), shutting down the pro-Kurdish HDP as problematic for the ruling AKP (17:30), why Erdogan is worried about Biden’s “cold shoulder” (23:25), particularly amid looming financial troubles and the shaky Turkish economy (37:00), and reasons for hope for Turkish activists and opposition figures (41:55).