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What's hope got to do with it?


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In this episode, we host Associate Professor Disa Sauter from the University of Amsterdam, and Edward Mishaud from The Beyond Lab at UN Geneva, to explore affective science and the role of hope in driving individual and collective sustainability action. They explain active versus passive hope, how different emotions shape decision-making, and why hopeful, solution-focused communication matters for sustainable development.

The conversation highlights practical pathways for bringing emotion research into multilateral spaces, the secret of storytelling as a tool to cultivate hope, and real-world examples of collective impact. Listeners learn how hope can mobilize agency, bridge individual and collective action, and inform better policy, negotiations and outreach.

Resources: Ask a Librarian!

The Beyond Lab: https://www.thebeyondlab.org/

The International Day of Hope: https://www.un.org/en/observances/hope-day

https://www.thebeyondlab.org/article/international-day-of-hope-2025 

Brosch, T., & Sauter, D. (2023). Emotions and the climate crisis: A research agenda for an affective sustainability science. Emotion Review, 15(4), 253–257. https://doi.org/10.1177/17540739231193741 

McKibben, B. (2025). Here comes the sun: A last chance for the climate and a fresh chance for civilization. W.W. Norton & Company.

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  • YouTube: https://youtu.be/WZrWb0NbbRY
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    Guests: Disa Sauter, University of Amsterdam

    Edward Mishaud, UN Geneva Beyond Lab

    Host, production and editing: Amy Smith, UN Library & Archives Geneva

    Recorded & produced at the United Nations Library & Archives Geneva 

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