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Trade marking isn't just a legal formality; it's a strategic move that can help make or break a band's artistic journey. Joining Lee Davies and Gwilym's stand-in, Neil Lampert, this week are trade mark attorneys Chris McLeod and Jerry Bridge-Butler, of CITMA, who bring a blend of legal expertise and rock 'n roll enthusiasm to our discussion. From Frank Zappa's Mothers of Invention to the oft-debated legacy of The Smiths, our guests provide insight into the historical missteps and modern approaches to band names and trade marks.