Our perceptions are limited by our own lived experience, but it's still good to know how other people experience the world. At least, as close as is possible. In this episode, listener Lee asks Kath "What's it like to be cis?" Another thought puzzle: what does one do whenvthey know they're different somehow, but none of the labels apply?  What then?

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