🎧 This week on What’s the Reason for This?, Kodi hangs in the dungeon with none other than Cotter Ellis of Goose — and this one goes deep. 🥁🔥

From Vermont heady snowboard spots 🏂🌲 to driving 20 minute jam peaks in front of thousands, Cotter opens up about the journey, the grind, the growth, and the surreal full circle moments that brought him from Swimmer to the Goose drum throne.

They dive into:

🥁 The drummers who shaped him. Bonham swagger, Neil Peart spectacle, and the caveman genius of Jay Lane

🎶 What it actually feels like to step into Goose. Milwaukee as the fearless foursome, The Cap shows, and finding chemistry fast

🌊 The art of building a jam. How peaks happen, how instinct takes over, and why preparation lets you stop thinking and just go

🐺 Why songs like Atlas Dogs unlocked a new rhythmic lane with those tribal 12/8 grooves

🎿 Colorado love. Ski tours, jam band meccas, and why Boise randomly rips

But this episode is not just about drums. It is about improvised music as a reflection of life itself. The gray areas. The tension. The light and the dark. The arc of a show that makes you laugh, cry, and lose your mind in the same set. 🎢✨

Cotter also gets real about:

💭 Goose hate, tribal fandoms, and staying open to constructive criticism

🤝 Community over competition and why music scenes should be melting pots instead of echo chambers

🔥 Launching Cotter and Friends and bringing Swimmer homies, Kyle Hollingsworth, Andy Hall, Torrin Daniels, and more together for genre bending chaos

At its core, this episode is about passion. The kind that makes you dig deeper behind the kit, trust the moment, and chase the unknown every single night.

🎧 Stream it now wherever you get your podcasts. It is thoughtful, funny, introspective, and a reminder that the best jams and the best lives happen when you stop overthinking and dive in. 🌊💥