Sam and Ryan chat about how and why framework APIs get used and abused. Ryan also shares his experience working with AWS Amplify on a side project.

Topics include:

- 3:17 – How useEffect can be confusing in high-level app code

- 21:05 – Immediate mode GUIs

- 32:40 – Who's responsible when developers misuse framework APIs?

- 46:40 – AWS Amplify

- 1:14:25 – Our ideal stack

Links:

- [Immediate mode GUIs - Go Time #128](https://changelog.com/gotime/128)

- [AWS Amplify](https://aws.amazon.com/amplify/)

- [Begin.com learn](https://learn.begin.com/)