The audio and video versions of this conversation are going live at the same time.

This is a conversation with Joshua Ryan Butler, Daniel Kelly and Sam.

A few weeks ago Joshua posted '4 Causes of Deconstruction' on The Gospel Coalition's website.

A few days after this, Daniel wrote a response and posted it on When Belief Dies.

Joshua read this and we all decided the best course of action would be to sit down and talk this through, the conversation you are either watching or listening to is that conversation.

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