Pastor Sam Masteller sits down with Pastor Rob McCoy for a bold conversation at the intersection revival and discipleship, and the cross-section of morality and government.

From preaching the gospel to an estimated 1.7 billion people during Charlie Kirk’s memorial service to unpacking Christian nationalism and the dangers of silent faith, Pastor Rob speaks with clarity and conviction.

If you’ve wrestled with how to stay biblical in a political world, this conversation will and sharpen you.