Lionel and Natalie dive deep into the sometimes blurry line between chivalry and control. Natalie opens up about growing up without examples of healthy male care, and how acts of kindness can feel like threats to her independence. Meanwhile, Lionel shares how his instinct to protect and provide is rooted in love and respect—not dominance. Together, they explore how past experiences shape the way we receive love, and what it means to truly understand your partner’s lens. Unfiltered as always.