Host Jerry Eicher (Baptist Theological Perspectives) discusses Paul Kingsnorth’s Against the Machine: On the Unmaking of Humanity in the second session of the "Venture Into" series. Beginning around page 11, Eicher and the episode track Kingsnorth’s core argument about what happens when Christ is removed from the center of Western culture and the sacred order collapses.

The episode covers Kingsnorth’s claim that the dethroning of Christ opened a vacuum that was filled by consumer capitalism and the power of money, examines the historical consequences (from the French Revolution through totalitarian regimes), and critiques modern projects that promise perfection—liberty, democracy, progress—yet often produce dehumanizing, technocratic outcomes. Key points include the rise of the “machine,” the loss of rootedness, the impossibility of a perfect society, and the need to recognize how methods and movements can displace God even in religious renewal.

Eicher adds practical reflections and examples from contemporary Anabaptist/BMA conversations—warning against theological perfectionism and method-driven revival—and emphasizes humility, self-denial, and re-centering God as essential responses. The conversation is sober and challenging, framing Kingsnorth’s book as a pivotal, provocative diagnosis of our cultural crisis.