Join hosts Rowan Miller, Don Patterson and Marcus Miller for a wide-ranging, candid episode of Relish that explores how Christians can talk across political and cultural divides with respect. The conversation opens with a personal story about a university professor who appeared on a conservative "watch list," the threats that followed, and the missed opportunity for real dialogue — a springboard into larger concerns about polarization in American public life and the church.

The hosts reflect on practical ways to have better conversations: distinguishing arguments from personal attacks, rekindling biblical literacy, and modeling respectful disagreement. They quote Luke 4 and the Sermon on the Mount as reminders of the church’s call to care for the poor, lift the oppressed, and hold a faith that speaks to social concerns without becoming merely partisan.

Generational change is a major theme. The episode contrasts older patterns of institutional church life with Gen Z’s different expressions of faith — decentralized communities, new worship forms (including music and online platforms), and a surge in Bible interest — while asking how discipleship, mentoring, and tangible care for neighbors can follow. The hosts celebrate young people’s passion while wrestling with how to translate energy into sustainable social action.

Practical parish stories illustrate the point: challenges keeping institutional events and volunteer leadership alive, the end of long-standing fundraisers, and hopeful examples like meat canning and new evening services focused on Scripture, praise, prayer and healing. The dialogue emphasizes that the church can evolve its practices to better serve mission and community needs.

Throughout, Rowan, Don and Marcus offer wisdom about navigating disagreement within congregations, renewing mission focus, and creating intergenerational relationships that foster discipleship. They invite listeners to suggest guests and topics and close with an encouragement to share the podcast and support the ministry’s goal: helping people grow deeper in their understanding of God and his calling in daily life.

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