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For some security problems, it can be tough to know when to try to fix the problem yourself or turn to a vendor. Deciding this shouldn't start with talking to someone that wants to sell you something. But how do you determine when it's time to call in a vendor?

This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Mike Johnson, CISO, Rivian. Joining us for this episode is our special guest, Katie Ledoux, CISO, Attentive.

Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Palo Alto Networks

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In this episode:

• Why do many organizations have a problem relating quantification to something meaningful to the business?
• Is there a way to understand risks on a continuum that will make relating these to business a little more manageable?
• What are the questions security professionals should be asking themselves?