In this episode, Karen and Jonelle dig into the uncomfortable truth behind accepting people as they are. What starts as a conversation about expectations quickly becomes something more personal: why we struggle to accept the real people in our lives and how much grief sits beneath that struggle. Karen introduces self-discrepancy theory by E. Tory Higgins—the gap between who we are, who we wish we were, and who we believe we ought to be—and how those inner narratives spill outward, shaping the expectations we place on others. Together, they examine projection, disappointment, resentment, and the chronic stress that builds when we refuse to release the stories we’ve created about people. Through humor, honesty, and real-life examples, they explore the grief work required to let go of imagined versions of others so we can relate with clarity, compassion, and accountability.

Calls to Action

• Reflect: What version of someone have you been holding onto—and are you ready to release that story?
• Reframe: Notice where projection shows up in your relationships and practice naming what is yours and what is theirs.
• Reset: Choose one belief or expectation you inherited from family, culture, or faith and ask whether it still serves your relationships.

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