Damon and Kristine sit down with Rose and Jon and hear their journey of trying to get pregnant for almost ten years. The parents talk about the insecurities that settle in when you are trying to get pregnant but are unable to. Jon shares the importance of continually talking to Rose and not getting quiet. The parents speak about how hope can become an enemy. In an honest moment, Rose tells us she gave herself the freedom to get angry and not feel guilty. At the time of this recording (January), we find out Jon and Rose had not taken down their Christmas tree.