What if illness wasn’t just something to endure — but a sacred space where God does His deepest work? In this episode, Bill sits down with Dr. Robert Marks, a practicing gastroenterologist, and Dr. Dana Blake, a physical therapist and professor, to discuss their powerful book Crucible of Illness. Together they explore a radical biblical perspective: that life-threatening illness, pain, and suffering are not the end of the story, but a portal through which faith matures and grace is revealed. Whether you’re a healthcare professional, a student, a resident or someone walking through your own valley, this conversation will challenge, encourage, and reframe the way you think about suffering, hope, and the God who meets us in the middle of it all.