Ali Stricklin and Jen Dryden Hess are getting real about money on this episode of Refined & Unhinged – because apparently some of us have a plan (ahem…Jen) and some of us are out here pretending we have our financial lives together when we are just winging it with faith and a credit card (ahem…Ali).

They dive into the messy world of money management, tackling everything from crippling financial insecurity to that sneaky scarcity mindset that keeps us up at 3 AM wondering if we'll ever find ourselves homeless. They're sharing raw stories about debt (because who among us hasn't had that "oh no" moment with their bank balance?), why having an actual investment strategy matters, and how understanding your finances can be the ultimate power move toward real financial security. 

They're also unpacking how differently they view wealth & prosperity– spoiler alert, it's complicated – and why building an abundance mindset isn't just about manifesting your way to riches but in believing that money is a source of energy and that the energy flows. Most importantly, they're making the case for why women need to start having these money conversations out loud, as uncomfortable as it can be, because financial independence hits different when you have a support team.

Ready to get uncomfortable about your relationship with money? Same. Let's do this.

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