In this episode of Okay, But Listen, host Mary-Pat Hector sits down with Nate Jester, a grassroots organizer and candidate for Atlanta City Council, to unpack the housing crisis that’s pricing people out of their own neighborhoods. From the paradox of empty houses to the underground communities forming in cities like Las Vegas, this conversation goes deep into what happens when home becomes a luxury.

Nate shares why he chose to “grow where he’s planted,” the real math behind housing inequality, and what it means to rebuild communities from within—without pushing out the people who built them.

Raw. Honest. Necessary.

This episode asks the question: What would it take to make home possible again—for everyone?