An uplifting and fascinating conversation with Anjelo, a gentle joyful man whose life was changed through an extraordinary experience. One minute, he was watching the World Cup on TV. The next moment someone threw a firebomb through his front window and it had landed in his lap. His understanding of pain and his capacity to describe it to Karl intimately and honestly make this a truly compelling listen. His questions are as intruguing as his answers: are emotional pain and physical pain the same thing? How much can we change our perspective of pain with our mind? And what does it mean to be lucky? For more information contact us at [email protected] and to download a transcription of this conversation go to https://bitly.com/when_i_saw_myself_on_fire_transcription