In light of Christian leaders like Ravi Zacharias falling from their ministry, Greg and RD begin this week's episode talking about the trust broken when we as Believers see this happen to people we look up to and respect.

Greg voices that sometimes these types of fallings come from a church or religious organization not having accountability or a leadership board. RD also suggests that when it becomes more about a person or the "cool factor" instead of being about the Gospel, things can be skewed or fall into sin.

RD shifts the conversation to power, and how power is not an evil thing, but power without humility, structure, and accountability can turn into a thirst for power.

Greg takes it to a personal level and brings up how impactful Ravi Zacharias' book 'Can Man Live Without God' was for him, and how you have to reconcile the good and the impactful with the sin. RD emphasizes that God knows everything and nothing takes Him by surprise, so while God can use negative or sinful situations for good, He still knows our hearts and we will be judged for what is in our hearts.

The two shift to the importance of a church having a plurality of leadership. Not only is this Biblical, but it keeps pastors accountable, Greg and RD disclose.

RD circles back to how Christianity is built on Jesus calling to broken and sinful humans and redeeming them. Greg repeats that we need to celebrate the Lord and what He can teach us through brokenness instead of making pastors into celebrities. But, just as we receive grace and forgiveness from Jesus, RD and Greg insist that we have to show grace and forgiveness to others, while holding each other accountable as Believers.

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