Leadership isn’t about position — it’s about growth.

In this episode of The Bizzin Podcast, Des-lie and CJ Smit unpack the heart of leadership and how everyone wins when a leader gets better. They talk about how personal growth, humility, and self-awareness directly impact the people we lead — in business, in teams, and at home.

CJ shares timeless truths about influence, responsibility, and what it means to lead with purpose. He reminds us that leadership is less about being in charge and more about becoming the kind of person others want to follow.

A powerful conversation about leadership that transforms — because when leaders grow, people thrive, and businesses flourish. Powered by Bizzin.

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