In this unscripted, Spirit-led conversation, Pastor Jay Gauthier sits down with Steve Wormer and Jerry Roisentul for a candid discussion about faith, hardship, purpose, and what it really means to follow Christ. Together, they explore why God often uses trials to shape us, the difference between living for ourselves versus living for God’s purposes, and why the Christian life isn’t a promise of comfort but a call to commitment. If you’ve ever questioned why God allows difficult seasons or wondered how to trust Him when life doesn’t make sense, this conversation will encourage and challenge you to see God’s hand at work even in the struggle.Connect with Jerry Roisentulhttps://championmentorship.com/Connect with Steve Wormerhttps://stevewormer.com/