In this conversation you will discover what it means to be guided by life - how to drop everything just to follow the signs. Mako is a loving warrior with a lot of mana that he shares with us while exploring his life - from growing up on a ship in the bush to diving for living and enrolling into Maori arts university. A fascinating listen to say the least.

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