What if teachers stopped being passive consumers of AI, and started shaping how it's built?

In this episode, Svenia Busson sits down with Stephen Jull a true EdTech veteran who started his career teaching in the remote woodlands of Northern Canada, went on to co-found GeoGebra GmbH — the free dynamic mathematics software that reached over 500 million users worldwide — and now leads EdTech and AI strategy at Teach for All, the global 60+ country network founded by Wendy Kopp, who also founded Teach for America over three decades ago.

At the heart of this conversation is the AI Literacy and Creator Collective (AI LCC) — a program launched in partnership with Anthropic — that brings together nearly 2,000 educators from across the world to move from being "done to" by AI, to actually co-architecting how frontier models are developed and deployed in classrooms.

More about the AI LCC here: https://www.anthropic.com/news/anthropic-teach-for-all

We explore:

• How GeoGebra scaled to 500M+ users with no ads, no data collection, and a mission-driven business model
• Why Teach for All's 2-year fellowship model is more relevant than ever in the AI era
• What the AI Literacy and Creator Collective actually looks like in practice — and why it rejects the traditional top-down training model
• Why working exclusively with free AI models is central to ensuring equity and scale across 60+ countries
• Whether our guest is, at heart, an optimist about AI's impact on children's ability to learn and think