When The Music Stops

By Aviv Milner

In a crowded landscape of new millionaires and infinite upside expectations, Aviv Milner investigates the Blockchain bubble to ask what will happen when the music stops. From NFTs to Binance pump toke... more

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The podcast currently has 25 episodes available.

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October 18, 2021 The Chivo Wallet w/ Oscar Salguero
On June 5, El Salvador President Nayib Bukele declared that bitcoin would become legal tender in El Salvador. On September 7th of this year, that law came into effect.

But the government of El Salvador (and the self-described "Emperor", Nayib Bukele) went further than just permitting the use of Bitcoin for payments- they had a wallet built for the people and offered a $30 signing bonus for citizens who would onboard with their government identification number. Although many in the Bitcoin community see this as a gesture of massive freedom, some see the glaring red flags of the closed-source custodial app.

Oscar Salguero is senior mobile developer with over 25 years of coding experience and a native Salvadorian, a country he lived in for the first 26 years of his life. Since the release of the Chivo wallet (the state sanctioned Bitcoin wallet promoted by the president), Oscar has been peeling away at the closed source application to better understand how the app actually works. For more about our guest, please visit his website:

https://oscarsalguero.com/

You can follow Oscar on twitter (@OscarSalguero) and his hobby project (@CodePlayTalkDev) where he likes to stream himself coding, playing games and chatting. If you are also curious about the Chivo wallet and want to help in testing or have interesting information about your findings, reach out to him or myself and we will gladly exchange info.

During this episode we discuss the mysterious private companies that were selected to build the state sanctioned application. You can read the article we mention in our discussion here:

https://www.clarin.com/tecnologia/lemon-cash-empresa-argentina-detras-implementacion-bitcoin-salvador_0_PaxkdocMO.html

We also touch on many of the features of the app, the good, the bad and the ugly.

Poll from last week on spotify:
"Is Bukele's Bitcoin Law doing good for El Salvador?"
25 votes were cast
16% said "Yes"
84% said "No"

Follow me on twitter, as always (@aviv_WtMS)
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1h 40min
October 09, 2021 Bukele, Bitcoin and El Salvador w/ Nelson Rauda
On June 5, El Salvador President Nayib Bukele declared that bitcoin would become legal tender in El Salvador. On September 7th of this year, that law came into effect.

Fans of Bitcoin are split between those who see this as a huge win for a decentralized payment system and those who point to the tyrannical character that is Bukele and worry that this will do more harm than good.

From my 6th floor podcast studio in Miami at the Oslo Freedom Forum I had the opportunity to speak to a journalist and El Salvador native on the full implications of the law and what it really means to the people of El Salvador and the Bitcoin movement.

Please follow my guest Nelson Rauda on twitter (@raudaz_) and see all of his excellent work on elfaro.net (translation "the Lighthouse", a newspaper out of El Salvador).

We discuss his article on the Bitcoin Party that took place shortly after the law was passed:
https://elfaro.net/es/202109/el_salvador/25711/Los-evangelistas-del-bitcoin-bailan-conga-en-El-Salvador.htm

We also discuss the work of Alex Gladstein, the organizer of the OFF and a HRF executive who stands in support of freedom everywhere and the fight against tyranny. Read his work here:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/the-polarity-of-bitcoin-in-el-salvador

Please follow me on twitter for the latest podcast updates!
@milner_aviv
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37min
October 04, 2021 Is Hex a Scam? w/ Chris DeRose (Extended Part 2)
What if Bitcoin wasn't the future?

What if one Florida man was sent here to save us all from our hard earned money and to free of us of our earthly desires to be wealthy through the graces of pumpamentals? Well we have another Florida man (Bitcoin Uncensored dumbest host and male counterpart, Chris DeRose) to tell us about this. We talk about many things, including Richard Heart's incredibly brilliant scam "Hex" as well as Cardano, ZCash, Ripple and even Ethereum. Are they scams? We will let you, the 16-year-old avid crypto investor, decide on whether your parents money gets lost this year.

To those who have sent hate mail to the tune of "Chris DeRose is not the dumbest co-host of BU, he is the second dumbest", I want you to remind you that I said dumbest MAN in Bitcoin. The dumbest cis-woman (Junseth, co-host of BU) has agreed to be detained and questioned against his will and he (errr... excuse me, she) agreed to reveal all. But at what cost?

WtMS is in MIAMI for the Oslo Freedom Forum and boy do we have some interesting stories to tell! We had to cop out by publishing a part 2 as a new episode in the meantime, until we get back. We apologize for any inconvenience, your unquestioning loyalty is important to us.

As always, follow me on twitter and stay tuned for some epic new content that should be on the way soon!
https://twitter.com/milner_aviv

Join the unofficial subreddit of this podcast! r/buttcoin is your place for the best and funniest content in the space!

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1h 48min
September 27, 2021 Investigating Binance w/ Dr. Carol Alexander
It's time to lawyer up because this one might get me sued, but honestly I wouldn't have it any other way!

Dr. Carol Alexander is a Professor of Finance at Sussex, a visiting Professor at Peking University HSBC Business School, and Co-Editor of the Journal of Banking and Finance. She holds a BSc in Maths with Experimental Psychology and a PhD in Algebraic Number Theory. She took a post-doc in Amsterdam, worked as a bond analyst for Phillips and Drew, and attended the London School of Economics as a Research Assistant in game theory/labour economics also taking their MSc in Mathematical Economics and Econometrics. In 1985 she took a lectureship in Mathematics and Economics at the University of Sussex, while also designing risk, pricing, hedging and trading models for investment banks, fund managers and exchanges.

In this episode we discuss her focus over the last year, exposing the illegal and dangerous behavior of Binance as it affects retail traders. Please check out her website (which is very well done and easy to navigate) for her academic publications, her blog posts and much more.

https://www.coalexander.com/blog

As always, thank you so much to my excellent fans who DM me on twitter and help me find guests, I couldn't have done it without you!

Follow me on twitter for tweets only relating to the show and new episodes!

https://twitter.com/milner_aviv

To leave comments and join the discussion, check out this reddit post!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/pwiol7/binance_exposed_again_dr_carol_alexander_on_wtms/
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57min
September 20, 2021 Bitcoin Uncensored w/ Chris DeRose (Tribute Episode!)
What is up party people? Yes! I can't believe it either! The greatest Bitcoin podcast has come back to life and is here on our show!

What is Bitcoin Uncensored? Well Chris DeRose and Junseth are probably the only two that could do it justice, but this tribute will have to do for now. It ran from 2015-17 and then (due to their falling out) it died off. I still consider it the best place to learn everything blockchain.

Follow me on twitter! (@milner_aviv)

Do you want to hear some of the 100+ episodes of Bitcoin Uncensored? Well you won't easily find it online, but if you say the magic words and tweet at me, I will give you a riddle with 12 challenges. Complete those challenges and get my Junseth's personal cell phone number and I will provide you an episode of one show.

Stay tuned for part 2!

Also check out this excellent article that just came out and mentions Chris quite a bit!

https://www.ft.com/content/9e787670-6aa7-4479-934f-f4a9fedf4829

If you want to talk to Chris or myself and leave some comments, do it on r/buttcoin (he is u/brighton36)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/psonxg/bitcoin_uncensored_w_chris_derose_wtms_podcast_qa/

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1h 9min
September 14, 2021 Enterprise Blockchains (BONUS Abridged Version) w/ Tim Swanson
You can't handle the truth!

Have you heard this before - "I'm not very excited about Bitcoin, Ethereum or any of these cryptocurrencies but I am optimistic about the technology behind it, the Blockchain!" Well I have heard that quite a bit as well, and if you are a regular listener you probably know that I am a bit skeptical of the claims.

Tim Swanson (@ofnumbers) is on to discuss this very thing and help us distinguish the real and the fake. He has been an active part of the space for roughly ten years and has even published books on the topic of technology in Bitcoin & Blockchain. His current role as the head of market intelligence at Clearmatics, as well as his previous work at companies like R3 puts him in the unique category of folks working on enterprise blockchain and DLT (distributed ledger technology) solutions.

I press him, perhaps a bit too much, to tell me the use cases of the crypto world outside of skirting regulations and our conversation reveals some critical issues. To learn more about Tim, check out his twitter which also gives you a sense of the companies he works for:
https://twitter.com/ofnumbers

Follow me on twitter for podcast updates: https://twitter.com/milner_aviv

Are you bullish on DLTs, Blockchains and the tech behind Bitcoin? Maybe you hold a lot of XRP and need some new money to hold those heavy bags (so heavy). Either way, you probably want to reach out to me and let me know why I am wrong! Well my DMs are always open and I respond kindly to threats, hate and free Nano.
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10min
September 13, 2021 Enterprise Blockchains w/ Tim Swanson
Have you heard this before - "I'm not very excited about Bitcoin, Ethereum or any of these cryptocurrencies but I am optimistic about the technology behind it, the Blockchain!" Well I have heard that quite a bit as well, and if you are a regular listener you probably know that I am a bit skeptical of the claims.

Tim Swanson (@ofnumbers) is on to discuss this very thing and help us distinguish the real and the fake. He has been an active part of the space for roughly ten years and has even published books on the topic of technology in Bitcoin & Blockchain. His current role as the head of market intelligence at Clearmatics, as well as his previous work at companies like R3 puts him in the unique category of folks working on enterprise blockchain and DLT (distributed ledger technology) solutions. I press him, perhaps a bit too much, to tell me the use cases of the crypto world outside of skirting regulations and our conversation reveals some critical issues.

To learn more about Tim, check out his twitter which also gives you a sense of the companies he works for:
https://twitter.com/ofnumbers

Follow me on twitter for podcast updates:
https://twitter.com/milner_aviv

Are you bullish on DLTs, Blockchains and the tech behind Bitcoin? Maybe you hold a lot of XRP and need some new money to hold those heavy bags (so heavy). Either way, you probably want to reach out to me and let me know why I am wrong! Well my DMs are always open and I respond kindly to threats, hate and free Nano.
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1h 8min
September 06, 2021 Questionable NFTs w/ Anton Lukashov
My good friend and professionally trained Russian artist Anton Lukashov is back for a second episode to discuss his experience trying to make a bit of money on the side selling his excellent digital artwork. Full disclosure, I hold no NFTs, and do not plan to buy any of them at any point in the future, but I do hold many off Anton's physical paintings and prints (digital art printed on fine paper).

In this episode we discuss what exactly is going on with the NFT space and try to make sense of why so many questionable items are being sold at exorbitant prices. We discuss the excellent work of renowned journalist and recurring guest Amy Castor, and consider the likely illicit nature of much of what the NFT space may be covering for.

Check out Amy's article here:
https://amycastor.com/2021/07/01/like-high-art-nfts-hit-all-the-right-targets-for-money-laundering/#post-7599

Please support her work by subscribing to her Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/amycastor

Previous episode (episode 2):
A critical discussion on the utility of NFTs with my good friend, Anton Lukashov, an architectural professional and an artist who outlines the challenges of making it as an artist (first 50 minutes). Anton describes how the hype around NFTs compelled him to join a new unregulated industry in the past few months and sell a few pieces online. Although his expectations of NFTs are high, most of the episode confronts many of the claims and leaves us asking if anything was solved at all.

Follow Anton on twitter and check out his work (which includes physical prints and paintings) on Instagram and on his website.

https://twitter.com/antnartist
https://www.instagram.com/antonlukashov/
https://www.antonlukashov.com/

Follow me on twitter for the latest episodes. Note, I will no longer be tweeting anything apart from podcast publications.
https://twitter.com/milner_aviv

DMs are always open!
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52min
August 31, 2021 Blockchain Debunking w/ Dr. Nicholas Weaver
Dr. Nicholas Weaver is a senior staff researcher focusing on computer security at the International Computer Science Institute in Berkeley, California, and a lecturer in the Computer Science department at the University of California at Berkeley.

In this second of two parts, Dr. Weaver goes deep into his expertise as a network security and computer vulnerabilities expert to describe the reality of much of the hype around "blockchains". He pulls no punches and describes the actual utility in Blockchain, and perhaps the lack thereof.

More about Dr. Nicholas Weaver:

UC Berkley Homepage
https://www2.eecs.berkeley.edu/Faculty/Homepages/nweaver.html

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/ncweaver

How to make money with Bitcoin in 10 easy steps!
http://www.buttcoinfoundation.org/how-to-make-money-with-bitcoin-in-10-easy-steps/

Cryptocurrency: Burn it with fire! (Presentation, YouTube Video)
https://www.usenix.org/conference/enigma2019/presentation/weaver

Blog:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/contributors/nweaver

Follow me and my producer on twitter!
https://twitter.com/milner_aviv
https://twitter.com/gordolven
My Twitter DMs are always open!
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1h 12min
August 30, 2021 Zero Sum Games w/ Dr. Nicholas Weaver
Dr. Nicholas Weaver is a senior staff researcher focusing on computer security at the International Computer Science Institute in Berkeley, California, and a lecturer in the Computer Science department at the University of California at Berkeley.

In this first of two parts, Dr. Weaver goes beyond his work of network security and computer vulnerabilities to describe a more pernicious and detrimental aspect of finance: gambling, parimutuel betting and the broad category of zero sum games. But how does this tie in to our favorite industry? Find out more in part 2, where Dr. Weaver ties in the utility and usefulness of "Blockchain" and why the only remedy may be to burn it with fire!

More about Dr. Nicholas Weaver:

UC Berkley Homepage
https://www2.eecs.berkeley.edu/Faculty/Homepages/nweaver.html

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/ncweaver

Cryptocurrency: Burn it with fire! (Presentation, YouTube Video)
https://www.usenix.org/conference/enigma2019/presentation/weaver

Blog:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/contributors/nweaver

Follow me and my producer on twitter!

https://twitter.com/milner_aviv
https://twitter.com/gordolven
My Twitter DMs are always open!
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36min

FAQs about When The Music Stops:

How many episodes does When The Music Stops have?

The podcast currently has 25 episodes available.