We wrap up the day with Natalie Williams, CEO of Jubilee+. What do we do there are giants in the land, what is the role of a Christian in a time of darkness? We don't deny the darkness, but we look to the light.

We also talk about becoming a Jubilee+ partner church and how to stay healthy when working hard against poverty and injustice.

Thanks for being with me for this Jubilee Plus podcast series. If you like what you hear you can find more content like this over at The Hopeful Activists Podcast, which I also host. Our latest episode is called

“Where do worship and justice meet?”