While Max was inside the Labor Notes conference this past April, attending panels and sharing space with intelligent, hard working organizers, Mel was wandering the conference grounds outside, meeting folks and talking about the joy of being a member of the working class as they sat in the grass and ate their lunches and talked with friends, old and new. There's something to be said about the people you meet when you're sharing cigarettes outside a conference center–one such person was today's guest, adorned in UFCW buttons and sharing his poetry with Mel while they smoked together on a bench near the conference.

On this week's episode of Working People, Mel sat down with labor poet and union grocer George Fish, a wonderful man full of stories about his life and work, his experiences growing up and ultimately leaving the Catholic Church, his politics–honed through decades of life experience–and his relationship to his writing and poetry.

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• Jules Taylor, "Working People" Theme Song