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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Shawn Bowen, VP, Deputy CISO - Gaming, Microsoft. Joining us is Patty Ryan, senior director, CISO, QuidelOrtho.

In this episode:

• Recognizing humanity
• Death by a thousand meetings
• What are we looking for?
• Find your value

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