Dale Stephenson is senior pastor of a large church in Melbourne's East. Yet at one stage in his life he ridiculed Christians and thought them weak. Dale was also successful and achieved a lot at a young age, but ended up writing poetry about the pointlessness of life. What changed? Why did he change his mind?

Hear Dale's story as we ask him some bigger questions about the meaning of life.

This episode was originally broadcast and released on 24th September 2017, hence the absence of an episode number.

You can explore the bigger questions raised in this episode through the accompanying Chasing Life reading guide. It contains further questions, stories and reflections to help you think more about the Old Testament book of Ecclesiastes.

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