Underwhelming. Annoying. Frustrating.

Optimistic?

San Jose Earthquakes and Bay FC failed to make the playoffs but the vibe around both clubs is different. Where do they go from here? On this episode we discuss the future for both clubs. Reasons to be cheerful and throw around some ownership talk.

We also discuss which of the Quakes young players are worth keeping an eye on and there's a little discussion of The Town FC's season and playoff disappointment.

There's also some speculation about whether San Jose let Max Arfsten and Diego Luna slip through their fingers.