Each year, Gallup asks people around the world if they would like to move to another country — and if so, which one. Of course, not everyone who seeks to migrate is able to do so. But what would it mean for populations and labor forces worldwide if everyone who sought to migrate moved to their desired country?  

Julie Ray, Gallup’s managing editor for world news, joins the podcast to discuss her latest analysis. Later, Justin Gest — professor of policy and government at George Mason University’s Schar School of Policy and Government — discusses the themes of his new book, Democratic Drain: Global Migration and the Struggle for Democracy.