This episode is something of a concept study - what or where is heaven?  From the musings of a small boy on a football pitch, through Genesis to Revelation with a couple of stops in between, Laurence and Paul explore what "heaven" meant to the Biblical writers.  The ideas that emerge seem much less about a physical location and much more about the presence of God and a relationship that ordinary people (on earth) can have with him through Jesus.  Enjoy listening, and we'd love you to get in touch to tell us how you'd explain the concept of heaven!