Back in 2023, Jefferson Hack visited legendary music producer Rick Rubin at his home, a converted former monastery in the Italian countryside. In this archive episode they delve into the origin of Def Jam Recordings, the impressive diversity of artists he’s worked with – from LL Cool J to Red Hot Chili Peppers to Adele, Johnny Cash and the Beastie Boys – and his uncanny ability to harness the creative talent of others, which led to the creation of Rubin’s inclusive and instructive guide, The Creative Act: A Way of Being. 

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