Tony and Kimberley discuss the importance of presence in their various ministries and in their family as parents and the far-reaching impact that has had over the years.

The Good News of Jesus is an incredible gift and there are so many creative ways to share it with those around you - sit with us for a bit as we talk about how this has looked in our lives, both in the inner city, and within the walls of church and home.

And if you hear any flirting - just overlook it...our producer would not be pleased.