In this episode of "One Thing More" podcast, hosts Jamalyn Williamson and Kim King, both pastors at Zionsville United Methodist Church, discuss their recent sermon titled "Wherefore Art Thou Lazarus?" They mention how Dave, their co-pastor, used Romeo and Juliet to discuss the structure of John's chapter in an interesting and fun way. Jamalyn reminisces about her husband's (Pastor Dave) hippie style of teaching while barefoot, with a head full of curly hair. They discuss how the topic of death and the reality of human mortality is difficult to talk about, but important to acknowledge. This episode touches on Jesus’ impending death, graceful aging, and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) and how it addresses grief.