Welcome to our follow-up conversation on the Renovate Live talk, "Who You Say I Am," where Ben shared an alternative to the defensive vs. defeated mindsets we so often find ourselves in when grappling with who we want to be. Our guests Lilly Park (Ph.D, author and professor of biblical counseling) and Ryan McCarthy (pastor and biblical counselor) explore hot topics like guilt, shame, anxiety, depression, victimization, brokenness, hurt, humility, community and other areas where we tend to talk ourselves out of a healthy view of identity. Join the conversation! Listen here, and reach out to us at www.renovateftw.org, or on social media: @renovateftw