Welcome to Top Shelf: The Outbound Leadership Podcast! In our intro episode, we dive into why we are starting this podcast, and why anyone leading an outbound sales team should listen.

Who Are Joey & Matt? | Trailer Episode

Real advice from real outbound leaders without the fluff, recycled templates, or LinkedIn buzzwords.

Joey and Matt built and scaled SDR orgs the hard way — testing, failing, tweaking, and eventually leading 150+ reps and promoting over 75 into closing, marketing, and leadership roles. 

After years of wishing there was a podcast actually built for XDR leaders, they made one.

Every episode, they sit down with a verified badass in outbound leadership — someone who’s the absolute best at an extremely specific part of the job, and dig into every detail.

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Real advice from real outbound leaders without the fluff, recycled templates, or LinkedIn buzzwords. Joey and Matt built and scaled SDR orgs the hard way — testing, failing, tweaking, and eventually leading 150+ reps and promoting over 75 into closing, marketing, and leadership roles. After years of wishing there was a podcast actually built for XDR leaders, they made one. Every episode, they sit down with a verified badass in outbound leadership — someone who’s the absolute best at an extremely specific part of the job, and dig into every detail.

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Who Are Joey & Matt? | Trailer Episode

Who Are Joey & Matt? | Trailer Episode