What happens when the role you've been playing no longer fits?

Whether it's entrepreneur, employee, parent, spouse, coach, practitioner, or CEO, most of us attach pieces of our identity to what we do. But what happens when life changes the script?

In this episode, Lisa and Emily wander (with purpose) through entrepreneurship, AI, retirement, personal branding, divorce, free agency, retirement, Kyle the accidental spirit animal, and why none of those things are actually the point.

The real conversation?

Identity.

Because if who you are is tied to a title, life has a way of eventually taking that title away.

But if your identity is rooted in deeper things—creativity, courage, resourcefulness, service, curiosity—you stay intact no matter what changes around you.

Along the way we discuss:

✨ Why everyone is a free agent now

✨ The danger of putting your entire identity in one bucket

✨ Entrepreneurship as a way of thinking—not just a business model

✨ How AI is becoming another tool (and why shaming people for using it is weird)

✨ What retirement, reinvention, and purpose have in common

✨ Why your "box of crayons" matters more than your job title

Plus:

✔ Mom jokes

✔ IRS interruptions

✔ A brief appearance by Kyle

✔ Questionable life advice

Because that's how we roll.

Join us inside the Conscious Collaboration Collective and tell us:

Who are you when the title changes?

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