Who makes decisions about project approval, design, and the pursuit of sustainability - in China, in recipient countries, and beyond? A recent report entitled, 'Belt and Road Decision-making in China and Recipient Countries: How and To What Extent Does Sustainability Matter?' breaks this question down artfully to trace the interests and institutional structures shaping BRI projects.

Listen to our interview with two of the three the authors, Thomas Hale (Associate Professor of Global Public Policy at the Blavatnik School of Government, University of Oxford) and Johannes Urpelainen (Prince Sultan bin Abdulaziz Professor of Energy, Resources and Environment at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and founding director of ISEP) and check out our recommendations!

Erik
1) Ys, Joanna Newsom

Johannes
1) De-carbonizing the Belt and Road, Climateworks Foundation, September 2019
2) The Emperor's New Road: China and the Project of the Century, Jonathan Hillman
3) The Initiative for Sustainable Energy Policy at Johns Hopkins SAIS

Tom
1) Ministry for the Future, Kim Stanley Robinson

Juliet
1) On China's New Silk Road, Mary Kay Magistad

~Special thanks to Maggie Gaus, who has joined the Belt and Road Pod team and edited this episode~

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